• sendhelp : do you think 537 is achievable when open?

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• CaptainBoi : Delisting Chinese ADR companies only hurts American Investors. Yes it’ll tank the market, but if you’re Chinese you know that it’s really a speculative market anyways. If you invested in the overall chinese index, it hasn’t made any sizeable returns. Regarding a cold war, that’s not entirely off the table. China’s ecnomy is weak, 300B in surplus is a big blow, but It won’t collapse the CCP. Sorry to blow your bubble. Americans need to stop worrying so much about China’s economy collapsing. The chinese people have more of a pain tolerance than Americans. I mean they simply just save more money than the average American. Will both economies suffer, yes, but will it collapse both, probably not. It’s an authoritarian government vs a democratic one. The US does have to advantage as itcan basically print as much money as it needs to get out of any hole it digs. What you should worry about if you’re a MAGA supporter is the farmers who will end up going bankrupt as a result of this trade war. There are no winners in a trade war .-.

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• SKYWalkers OP CaptainBoi : delisting is a symbol of cutting ties.
  there are more weapons ahead, including recognising Taiwan.
  of course there is a winner in a trade war, that's why there is a war, there has to be a winner.
  saying there's no winner in a trade war is just repeating what others are inanely saying, without actually thinking logically and analysing what the statement means.

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• Christopher Cioc : the United States is the 3rd largest imposter of Chinese products, behind Indonesia and the EU. They will literally be fine. The Chinese markets have been outperforming, and it just expanded at a 5+% growth rate.
  Trump is an idiot if he thinks the US can control Chinese trade. All it does is push other countries to buy Chinese goods and increase their influence

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• CaptainBoi SKYWalkers OP : Americans love wars not surprised considering the lobbyst that helped Trump get in office are from the Military Industrial Complex. What you’ll most likely see if a proxy war. Everyone that surrounds Trump is Hawkish on China. I mean if there’s one thing that’s bipartisan it’s China is the enemy. The US wants taiwan, because it’s a strategic military and economic location. If the US wants to decouple from China, well it can do that if it wants. But it’ll be painful for both countries. US will probably be fine. US consumers will see price hikes, but it won’t collapse. We have the privilege of being the reserve currency so we print our way out of trouble until it stops working. We also don’t have the infrastructure in many of  our cities. We can’t bring manufacturing in a day or months it takes years!! We can’t even fix our roads and potholes. We will still have to import from other countries wether you like it or not because it takes time to bring back manufacturing. Subsidies work and do bring manufacturing back which is why TSMC built factories in America because of the Chips Act that Trump is claiming credit for but actively workjg to remove it. Yes the chips act was flawddd but it still boosted many and lowered the cost of doing. just like how the CCP subsidize manfuacturing, but slapping tariffs on everything doesn’t solve anything and could perhaps worsen the problem we are trying to solve.

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• SKYWalkers OP Christopher Cioc : you really don't understand China and CCP, their GDP figures are faked, you won't have correct information if you do not understand China well.

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